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commissioner vietor: i appreciate your comment. let me suggest this, the commission is a really horrible place to try to deal with the kind of issues that you raised, especially on an extemporaneous basis. if you come to us in public comment and make statements like that, we have no way of getting testimony from other people who no different fax and coming to a conclusion ourselves at the spur of the moment. you also say some very serious things, and i am a reluctant to have the record present just one side of these sets of accusations that the accused party has no ability to counter. that is not to say that you should not raise your issues. what i encourage you to do is to communicate your issues formally and in writing. that you do that to the commission and its staff. and we can review them. and we will deal with that. but it is really -- and this is not a forum that is designed to deal with the kind of issue that you raised. and i think that we can deal with that much more effectively if we did it in a formal and written proces
commissioner vietor: i appreciate your comment. let me suggest this, the commission is a really horrible place to try to deal with the kind of issues that you raised, especially on an extemporaneous basis. if you come to us in public comment and make statements like that, we have no way of getting testimony from other people who no different fax and coming to a conclusion ourselves at the spur of the moment. you also say some very serious things, and i am a reluctant to have the record present...
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commissioner vietor: ok. the other thing on advanced calendar, we're not having second meetings in either november or december, which means that the first meeting, or the only meeting in those two months, is likely to be very pact. a couple things with respect to that, first, we need to expect that those will be long meetings unscheduled ourselves accordingly. general manager and i spoke about what has been sort of an informal rule that we will be working to adhere to more rigorously, and that is basically the staff presentations for action items where there is an issue that is ripe for action and is well- developed. those presentations should be no more than five minutes. if we're dealing with a non action item from those presentations should be no more than 10 minutes. i think that hopefully will keep the discussion a little more crispy. there is again no limitation on the number of public comments that with been made. there's no limitation on the commissioner's ability to ask questions and getting answers.
commissioner vietor: ok. the other thing on advanced calendar, we're not having second meetings in either november or december, which means that the first meeting, or the only meeting in those two months, is likely to be very pact. a couple things with respect to that, first, we need to expect that those will be long meetings unscheduled ourselves accordingly. general manager and i spoke about what has been sort of an informal rule that we will be working to adhere to more rigorously, and that...
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commissioner vietor: what is it currently? what is the range? >> i do not know off the top of my head. it is around the 27 mark. those are agreements, but what is it actually at is the question. commissioner vietor: so it is actually 25 to 28? >> i do not know right now. i apologize. commissioner vietor: maybe you could let us know, come back in the process. the boat house has been vacant for how long? >> eight years. commissioner vietor: at the time, was that a revenue generator? >> it generated some revenue. how much, i do not know. the tenant leaving gave the indication it was not enough or he had other issues. commissioner vietor: i know there has been a lot of discussion over that, to pay for some of the expenses. >> one of the things we concluded was that the revenues should go back into the lake from rec and park activities around the lake. it should not go elsewhere. >> i think in the past it did make some money for rec and park, and it is doubtful much came back to the like. -- to the lake. i think the idea is if you make money there, i
commissioner vietor: what is it currently? what is the range? >> i do not know off the top of my head. it is around the 27 mark. those are agreements, but what is it actually at is the question. commissioner vietor: so it is actually 25 to 28? >> i do not know right now. i apologize. commissioner vietor: maybe you could let us know, come back in the process. the boat house has been vacant for how long? >> eight years. commissioner vietor: at the time, was that a revenue...
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commissioner vietor: ok, thank you. commissioners? one thing that does stand out in that is that we had budgeted this year assuming that water use would continue to decrease but would also bottom out. am i correct in concluding that we were wrong and that it has not bottomed out in the water consumption continues to decline? >> yes, commissioner. we did make an assumption in the budget that we would sell 140 million gallons per day to our wholesale customers. we have experienced in some ways a wetter, cooler period in the early part of the year. typically from july through october, we deliver anywhere from 44% to 45% of an year's worth of hot water to our wholesale customers. this year we are even lower than we assumed in the budget. the budget assumed we would come down to 140 of deliveries. if you analyze what the first four months or, the continued decline in trains downward of 9%, we would be delivering 130 two million gallons per day. our budget had assumed 140. we do believe that there should be some leveling off in the declines
commissioner vietor: ok, thank you. commissioners? one thing that does stand out in that is that we had budgeted this year assuming that water use would continue to decrease but would also bottom out. am i correct in concluding that we were wrong and that it has not bottomed out in the water consumption continues to decline? >> yes, commissioner. we did make an assumption in the budget that we would sell 140 million gallons per day to our wholesale customers. we have experienced in some...
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commissioner vietor: the mandate would not apply to us unless we get to below 100%? >> we would have to dip below 67%. as long as we are meeting -- and it goes back to the provisions of the act, the statute. as long as we are meeting our municipal needs with at least 67% hetchy power, it is the remainder that needs to be renewable. 90% hetchy, 10% renewable. commissioner vietor: we would have to come up with a plan to be safe and conservative of 33%. >> 67% is confusing. in a year, we produce enough power for hetchy. we are never even close to the 67% discussion threshold. typically, we buy whatever power is on the market. we need to buy green power. >> certify green power from wherever. >> things got so bad, power plants went down, who knows what else happened? other things kick in, but that will hopefully never happen. >> there will have to be a combination of drought and the maintenance outages. the concept is that we are only held to 33%. we don't have to go beyond that. in most circumstances, we will be above that limit and it is the remainder that needs to be r
commissioner vietor: the mandate would not apply to us unless we get to below 100%? >> we would have to dip below 67%. as long as we are meeting -- and it goes back to the provisions of the act, the statute. as long as we are meeting our municipal needs with at least 67% hetchy power, it is the remainder that needs to be renewable. 90% hetchy, 10% renewable. commissioner vietor: we would have to come up with a plan to be safe and conservative of 33%. >> 67% is confusing. in a year,...
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commissioner vietor: thank you. commissioner moller caen: looking at slide 12, granted it is a small increase, but the total dollar amount is going to be shocking. how do you feel that we could negotiate that? he >> it is definitely more shocking at four pennies than two. that is why we wanted your thoughts on what the book and options would-be. -- on what the bookend options would be. we are a $6.5 billion entity. the entire general fund is $3.3 billion per year. if one penny is $4.5 million, not to say that it is not significant because every dollar is significant, but this would be a discussion with the mayor's office as well as the board of what the importance is of the hetch hetchy system. everybody understand that the costs we have now are incredibly low. there are the best bargain we have right now, especially compared to pg &e. policy makers understandably could not forever sustained rates below cost. it is a matter of how they can fit them into the budget. we are all hoping that an economic recovery helps t
commissioner vietor: thank you. commissioner moller caen: looking at slide 12, granted it is a small increase, but the total dollar amount is going to be shocking. how do you feel that we could negotiate that? he >> it is definitely more shocking at four pennies than two. that is why we wanted your thoughts on what the book and options would-be. -- on what the bookend options would be. we are a $6.5 billion entity. the entire general fund is $3.3 billion per year. if one penny is $4.5...
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commissioner vietor: does anyone would disagree the item from the consent calendar? >> double move the calendar. >> i have one question on 8a. what is the impact of cca on that program? >> the program right now combined our money with the utility company money when somebody buys a high efficiency washing machine. they get the money from the state for efficient the kinds of things. on day one of cca, it had no impact. we are arguing to be about to get that kind of efficiency money that goes to pg&e and be able to use it with our customers better should that happen, we would combine this money and offer it. it is a four-year contract that allows us to get out every year as part of our planning for the next year. if we take it over, we would cancel -- cancel it with pg&e. commissioner vietor: either way, cca customers should be able to take advantage of that program and have available the pg&e funding or ours? >> exactly. the idea is not devaney lack of funding for energy and water conservation conductivities. commissioner moran: we have a motion in a those in favor? op
commissioner vietor: does anyone would disagree the item from the consent calendar? >> double move the calendar. >> i have one question on 8a. what is the impact of cca on that program? >> the program right now combined our money with the utility company money when somebody buys a high efficiency washing machine. they get the money from the state for efficient the kinds of things. on day one of cca, it had no impact. we are arguing to be about to get that kind of efficiency...
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commissioner vietor: 4 the road maintenance? >> we give that to rec and park. it is for trash pickup. commissioner vietor: and the road maintenance is currently were ordered to dpw? >> again, the primary road is harding road itself. i am not familiar with how anything has been done there. it may have been done as part of the golf course improvements. president moran: it would certainly be more comfortable if it was clearer who is responsible for funding what kind of activities. it bothers me somewhat that we are funding the boathouse improvements, but have no responsibility for it in general. if things were to get better, we would have no access to the money is produced. it would seem at a minimum the mou would be stronger if it made it clear for any new facilities that are recreationally oriented, or the maintenance of facilities, that it is the responsibility of rec and park. other watershed activities are us. to make it clear, i do not want a false expectation by transferring some responsibilities to us that we suddenly become the funding source for recreati
commissioner vietor: 4 the road maintenance? >> we give that to rec and park. it is for trash pickup. commissioner vietor: and the road maintenance is currently were ordered to dpw? >> again, the primary road is harding road itself. i am not familiar with how anything has been done there. it may have been done as part of the golf course improvements. president moran: it would certainly be more comfortable if it was clearer who is responsible for funding what kind of activities. it...
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commissioner vietor: i also want to acknowledge and recognize all the earth stewards who are here. thank you for coming out and showing up, and it is not easy thank you for being here and all the work you do. [applause] commissioner moran: thank you very much. moving on to the report of the general manager. >> we have two items today. the first is our wsip update report. i will give her a minute to have the room. commissioner moran: ok, thank you. just a notice to staff, we have an awful lot of business to do today. we had talked about time limits on staff presentations. i will be enforcing those. julie, you get the first five minutes. >> ok. good afternoon. my update today -- i wanted to start with some good news. at the end of november, our contractor at sunol valley water treatment plant was able to complete the project, and i wanted to mention that because the timely completion was required to bring back the plan to its full capacity prior to the hetch hetchy shutdown that began on december 5. that required a lot of hard work from our contractor and operations staff, so they ar
commissioner vietor: i also want to acknowledge and recognize all the earth stewards who are here. thank you for coming out and showing up, and it is not easy thank you for being here and all the work you do. [applause] commissioner moran: thank you very much. moving on to the report of the general manager. >> we have two items today. the first is our wsip update report. i will give her a minute to have the room. commissioner moran: ok, thank you. just a notice to staff, we have an awful...
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commissioner vietor: i also want to acknowledge and recognize all the earth stewards who are here. thank you for coming out and showing up, and it is not easy thank you for being here and all the work you do. [applause] commissioner moran: thank you very much. moving on to the report of the general manager. >> we have
commissioner vietor: i also want to acknowledge and recognize all the earth stewards who are here. thank you for coming out and showing up, and it is not easy thank you for being here and all the work you do. [applause] commissioner moran: thank you very much. moving on to the report of the general manager. >> we have
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that would be my opinion vietor i am in favor of it, but we will see where we go. commissioner miguel: there are some arguments here that i have got to comment on, the argument about levis and other stores have been levis. sending those with nike downtown. these are flagship stores that are not expected to make any money, truthfully. they break even. they do their business with tourists. without the tourist business, it would not succeed. they are advertising more than anything else. we run into similar situations here. i understand commissioner fong's argument about the van ness avenue apartment houses. professional contractors have their contacts, where they deal with it. other than the condo owner, the professional contractors already have their contacts. they do not have to look around on polk street to find a new paint store without any question. and truthfully, i think -- i believe any way, at least in my mind, that if they were going to open on van ness avenue, this might be a different consideration. maybe not, but it could be. after all, when we turned dow
that would be my opinion vietor i am in favor of it, but we will see where we go. commissioner miguel: there are some arguments here that i have got to comment on, the argument about levis and other stores have been levis. sending those with nike downtown. these are flagship stores that are not expected to make any money, truthfully. they break even. they do their business with tourists. without the tourist business, it would not succeed. they are advertising more than anything else. we run...
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still has its hands involved in a war scenario when national security council spokesman tommy vietor says no an interview with wired stranger and leader says that any troops returning would not be involved in combat nor special operations forces or rather troops or provide technical advice on counterterrorism and a whole joint training exercises so it looks like president obama might have been fibbing when you call this a full transition after all those who have troops on the ground in iraq and let's not forget that even with the official troop withdrawal it will still be cia around one hundred anybody affiliated with al qaida and there's also going to be about five thousand mercenaries to guard u.s. diplomats in the country so when i ask you one more time is this really the end to the war in iraq or is the obama administration attempting to appease americans label the u.s. presence as a non-combat one and pretend as if they're really leaving the country think it's pretty obvious the latter. now back in september we reported on some very questionable counterterrorism training practic
still has its hands involved in a war scenario when national security council spokesman tommy vietor says no an interview with wired stranger and leader says that any troops returning would not be involved in combat nor special operations forces or rather troops or provide technical advice on counterterrorism and a whole joint training exercises so it looks like president obama might have been fibbing when you call this a full transition after all those who have troops on the ground in iraq and...